#246 Today, 02:54 PM
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Brianstalin and Adrian,

This morning as I was listening to the angel my thoughts were on astrology and the connection right now between Mercury and Pluto affecting karma in family relationships and deep issues that are suppressed. I was asking the angel about the Sherrie Szuszu thing and Brian indicating a sibling rivalry and the angel said that Adrian and Brian were actually closer than they think and it was a "family squabble". So how about it Brianstalin?
Who is Adrian to you and you to him? You are both very adept at the past life thing but have big issues with each other’s methods. I challenge you both to ante up and see what this whole thread is really about. Besides, it is Christmas and we all enjoy a good read over the holidays.
OP
You know I was reading this back to look for errors and it was interesting to see the spelling of the names, ficticious or not...Brian- Adrian like two sides of a coin....
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#247 Today, 04:14 PM
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Karmic Debt




B rian - Ad rian. BAd. I'm just a messenger. Do I bring bad news or good news?


Quote:
Originally Posted by pastlifetherapy
Brianstalin, come on, eight years span of hard-nose research work I
conducted with Sherrie, doesn't mean being "easily satisfied," as
opposed to only a few minutes of so-called "Akashic Records reading"
you did.



Eight years of hard research compared with a few minutes of quiet focus is quite unacceptable, of course.

A family squabble? I have already referred to it as soul group interaction.


Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
My own involvement in all of this is no accident either. We are dealing with the interaction of a soul group.




The thread is about the passing on of information. Nothing more. No big issues about methodology, as such. Something about karmic debt. Nothing heavy or serious.

















#248 Today, 04:57 PM
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B rian - Ad rian. BAd. I'm just a messenger. Do I bring bad news or good news?

Dear Brian and everyone,

Nice! Congrats Brian! I would take what's in common=rian=rain and wash away the BAd. I agree, we disseminate information. Remember, living in spirit, the bad is devested of our vital energy, thus, ceases to have a life of its own and ceases to exist, vanishes. Instead, we shift that energy where it properly belongs, to God within and everywhere, therefore, to the POSITIVE. We have the God-given choice. Sometimes, the choice could be to agree to disagree.

A great Master said: "I always live in the spirit."

And a Christmas gift for this group can be found by clicking on NEWS at the top of my web page: www.marilyn-monroe.ca. The gift is a 60-page, Q & A book I wrote, titled: "A Psychiatrist's Notebook, Practical Self-Discovery & Self-Help Spiritual Guide."

To everyone, have a very Merry Christmas!

Adrian


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#249 Today, 09:21 PM
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Great Spirits



Quote:
Originally Posted by pastlifetherapy

A great Master said: "I always live in the spirit."




My guides (Great Spirits?) were drawn to your Einstein quote from your webpage.

Einstein said: “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.”

http://www.marilyn-monroe.ca/The-He...-Soul/index.php

















#250 Today, 09:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
My guides (Great Spirits?) were drawn to your Einstein quote.

Einstein said: “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.”

http://www.marilyn-monroe.ca/The-He...-Soul/index.php




Edgar Cayce said, "I am one of the few who can lay aside their own personalities sufficiently to allow their souls to make this attunement to a universal source of knowledge -- but I say this without any desire to brag about it. In fact I do not claim to possess anything that other individuals do not inherently possess. Really and truly, I do not believe there is a single individual that does not possess this same ability I have. I am certain that all human beings have much greater powers than they are ever conscious of -- if they would only be willing to pay the price of detachment from self-interest that it takes to develop those abilities."

Is detachment from self-interest the essential ingredient that allows us to realise the Great Spirit that is in each of us—God?

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/phoebe.htm


Cayce became an American celebrity towards the end of his life and the publicity given to his prophecy has overshadowed what to him were the more important parts of his work such as healing (the vast majority of his "readings" were given for people who were sick) and theology (Cayce being a lifelong, devout member of the Disciples of Christ). Skeptics challenge Cayce's claim to psychic prowess, while conservative Christians also
question his unorthodox answers on religious matters (such as reincarnation and akashic records). He may have been the source for the idea that California would fall into the ocean (though he never said exactly this).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce


At what point do our mediocre minds give way to the Great Spirit - God?

Is it an intellectual, egoistic process or a metaphysical one?

Does it involve theory or energy?

Kundalini?




















#251 Yesterday, 09:41 PM
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Kundalini






According to the yogic tradition, Kundalini is curled up in the back part of the root chakra in three and one-half turns around the sacrum. Yogic phenomenology states that kundalini awakening is associated with the appearance of bio-energetic phenomena that are said to be experienced somatically by the yogi. This appearance is also referred to as "pranic awakening". Prana is interpreted as the vital, life-sustaining force in the body. Uplifted, or intensified life-energy is called pranotthana and is supposed to originate from an apparent reservoir of subtle bio-energy
at the base of the spine. This energy is also interpreted as a vibrational phenomena that initiates a period, or a process of vibrational spiritual development.

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#252 Yesterday, 09:47 PM
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Risks



Kundalini might be said to be a popular concept, since it is widely quoted among various disciplines of yoga and New Age beliefs. However, the recent popularization of the term within new religious movements has - according to some scholars of religion - not contributed to promote a mature understanding of the concept.

According to yogic terminology the force of Kundalini is supposed to be raised through meditative exercises and activated within the concept of a subtle body, a body of energy and finer substance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini


There are risks involved in the process, however. Monks have died when the Kundalini force has risen too quickly.















#253 Yesterday, 09:55 PM
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Information




Concerning the retrieval of information relating to past lives or other hidden mysteries.


The late Itzhak Bentov studied Kundalini from an engineering perspective.
According to Bentov, the 7.5 Hz oscillation of the heart muscle rhythm induces mechanical frequencies in the brain, that in turn create a stimulus equivalent of a current loop. The nerve endings in that loop correspond to the route through which the Kundalini "rises". This current polarizes the brain part through which it flows in a homogenous way, effectively releasing tremendous amounts of stress from the body. The body then becomes an effective antenna for the 7.5 Hz frequency, which is one of the resonant frequencies of the ionosphere. In layman's terms, you then pick up information from the air. This might account for repeated descriptions of heightened senses as a result of rising Kundalini, e.g. as described by Yogananda: "The whole vicinity lay bare before me. My ordinary frontal vision was now changed to a vast spherical sight, simultaneously all-perceptive. Through the back of my head I saw men
strolling far down Rai Ghat Lane...

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#254 Yesterday, 10:03 PM
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Antenna



Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
The body then becomes an effective antenna for the 7.5 Hz frequency,
which is one of the resonant frequencies of the ionosphere. In
layman's terms, you then pick up information from the air.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini




The mind must be very still, quiet and focused to pick up hidden information.

Somnambulistic/sleeping trances are not necessary. We can become effective antennas and pick up information when wide awake and engaged in normal everyday activities.


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#255 Yesterday, 10:16 PM
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What is Kundalini?

Kundalini is a term from the yogic tradition for the power of the Divine.
It is Kundalini who creates the universe and knows Its Self as Creator.
Kundalini has been called “the face of God.” Just as we recognize someone by his or her face we recognize the Divine by Its power of Consciousness, Kundalini. It is Kundalini that clothes the formless in form, that gives the Absolute a face to adore, a presence to inspire, traditions to revere and a body of wisdom to serve and guide. She is the esoteric goal of all yogas, the awakened mind of the thatagatas and the transcendent vision of
saints and sages. By knowing Her, all is known and life becomes suffused with ananda - sublime joy. The source of that joy is our very own Self, forever present, nearer than our breath, waiting in Stillness to be revealed. Drown the ordinary ego-mind in Stillness if you truly want to know the Knower.

The Eastern traditions revere Kundalini as a Goddess, the Great Mother who gives birth to all that is. She is seen as taking on limitations, contracting and condensing to form the material world. She is the essential energy, more fundamental than nuclear power, that is the basis of who we are and all that we experience. When our limited mind is infused with Her transcendent power of Consciousness we know directly the truth of
our unity with the Divine and all Its creation. Every spiritual tradition has its name for Kundalini - Holy Spirit, Grace, Shekhinah, Anima, Chi, Bodhicitta- and every saint and mystic has known Her blessing. Seekers on all paths need Her grace to succeed on their journeys. For this reason shamans, yogis, monks, priests, nuns and aspirants of all types approach Her as suppliants. Being the Great Mother, the Great Lover, She’s willing
to take whatever shape and bare whatever name Her children wish to use as they bow to Her.

Kundalini is often used to refer to the power of the Divine present in each person. She has two aspects. One maintains the entire existence of our body, mind and spirit. The other aspect, considered dormant, is the power of Consciousness to know the Divine in Its infinitude as Self. This potential power, innate to all of us, can propel our awareness from the paltry limitations of individual existence, with all its wants and needs and deficiencies, to Unity Consciousness - the sublime awareness of our Divine Self, infinite and all-encompassing. Symbolized by a coiled serpent asleep in the center of earthbound consciousness, this aspect of Kundalini awaits the great awakening, the most profoundly important event in the long life of the soul, a life that extends over countless cycles of physical birth and death.

What is Kundalini awakening?

Shaktipat, the Sanskrit term for Kundalini awakening, means “descent of grace.” It is an act of grace, an act of the Divine that releases the dormant potential power of the Absolute residing within us. God blesses God so that God may know God. Your true Self blesses you so that you may know your Self.

Kundalini awakening may occur in a ritual designed specifically for such a transmittal of power, as in some initiation ceremonies or as baptism was once meant to be. The person conducting the initiation and the ritual or practices must have the power to invoke such an awakening for it to be genuine. Unfortunately there are many, many more impostors than there are genuine conduits for the power of Grace.

Awakening can also occur through various yogic practices and disciplines developed over thousands of years specifically for preparing the mind and body for this vast influx of power and aiding in the arousal of Kundalini.
Prayer, devotional practices, chanting, selflessly serving others, meditation, mantras, ritual dance, drumming and many other sacred endeavors can awaken Divine Consciousness, Kundalini.

Spontaneous awakening of Kundalini can be precipitated by near death experiences, traumatic experiences, pain, deep sorrow, prolonged periods of one-pointed concentration, or even in dreams through the initiation given by a wise being. It’s even possible for one to have been initiated in a past life and have the signs of awakened Kundalini continue in this life without any recollection of the past-life Shaktipat.

Though Kundalini awakening is the greatest prize on the spiritual quest, the blessed soul receiving this grace is on its way to the realization of the highest, the awakening and its attendant process of renewal is not without peril.

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#256 Yesterday, 10:19 PM
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Support is essential for anyone experiencing Kundalini awakening and evolution. Finding skilled and knowledgeable individuals who can assist and guide without pathologizing or taking advantage of the vulnerable state one is in can be difficult. Out of desperation and ignorance people give up their power and discrimination to teachers or practitioners who create dependence, demand loyalty or secrecy or otherwise compromise the autonomy and integrity of the seeker. The guru market is worse than the used car market, be wary! There are few bad intentioned individuals, but ignorance can be nearly as harmful.

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#257 Yesterday, 11:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
My guides (Great Spirits?) were drawn to your Einstein quote.

Einstein said: “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.”

http://www.marilyn-monroe.ca/The-He...-Soul/index.php



Great Spirits that Einstein referred to, are not discarnate spirit guides, though they may be great. He referred to God within all of us, we need to tune back to IT. When asked to summarize his life and work, he wrote at the top of a blank page in capital letters: "GOD," and at the bottom in small case letters: "the rest is detail." Kundalini is fine.



















#258 Today, 04:34 AM
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Mischievious/Mischievous



Quote:
Originally Posted by pastlifetherapy
Great Spirits that Einstein referred to, are not discarnate spirit guides, though they may be great. He referred to God within all of us, we need to tune back to IT.



Yes, of course. My guides were obviously being mischievous and reminding us, that even simple things can be interpreted in specific ways to support our arguments and viewpoints. We must all shed this mortal coil some time and return to the world of spirit which may be our true home.


Quote:
Originally Posted by pastlifetherapy

A great Master said: "I always live in the spirit."







The realm of spirit may be a place of higher understanding. Our physical journey might, in many ways, be a brief holiday away from the truth, or, at least, gives us opportunities to work within very challenging environments, where we can rediscover TRUTH and make any necessary atonements that could result in surprising degrees of spiritual advancement.



#259 Today, 05:01 AM
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Kundalini



Quote:
Originally Posted by pastlifetherapy
Kundalini is fine.



The arousal of Kundalini power is the key to all knowledge, wisdom and Ascension processes.



Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin

Kundalini is often used to refer to the power of the Divine present in each person. She has two aspects. One maintains the entire existence of our body, mind and spirit. The other aspect, considered dormant, is the power of Consciousness to know the Divine in Its infinitude as Self. This potential power, innate to all of us, can propel our awareness from the paltry limitations of individual existence, with all its wants and needs and deficiencies, to Unity Consciousness - the sublime awareness of our Divine Self, infinite and all-encompassing. Symbolized by a coiled serpent asleep in the center of earthbound consciousness, this aspect of Kundalini awaits the great awakening, the most profoundly important event in the long life of the soul, a life that extends over countless cycles of physical birth and death.



http://www.thesoulsjourney.com/kundalini.html





Kundalini power does not allow us to prove things, unfortunately. But a skilled practioner would surely be able to instantly assess any claims about the reincarnation of certain individuals. A skilled practioner understands that even spirit messages that appear to be from impeccable sources cannot be taken on faith.

We can all become skilled practioners at this very important time. If we are not already skilled practioners, we still have 6 more years to be ready for any great adjustment occurring in 2012. If nothing happens in 2012 to assist us, we will not be overly concerned, because our hard work will ensure that wonderful things MUST happen. A self-fulfilling prophecy.



















#261 Today, 06:14 PM
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survival



Good MOrning.....the sun rose with glory today..

My l7 yrs old is playing x-box 24-7......i was positive this is destroying
his mind...and then I asked him....jesse....what's up

He said and i quote..."I am learning strategies....for my survival"....

that is all i want to say.....besides that.....


I would like to wrap you "all" up....to I could have a deeper look in
person...

I am on the edge of the universe right now....and it looks pretty good!

Love and dragon light
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#262 Today, 06:57 PM
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Mutual Respect/Agreeing to Disagree



Dear OP and Brianstalin,

Psychoanalysis has been with us for close to a century, and thousands of books and scientific papers have been written on this subject by trained psychoanalysts, through rigorous academically recognized scientific research. It is still an excellent modality to uncover one's mental/emotional blocks. I've been analyzed myself four times a week for
50 minutes each time, as I wanted at the time to become an analyst. In order to become one, one has to undergo his/her own analysis, thus recognize and let go of the aforementioned blocks. In this manner, one becomes sensitized to his/her clients' problems, and can assist them more effectively to recognize and get rid of their own blocks. The methodology of psychoanalysis consists mainly of dream analysis and spontaneous associations by the client on the dream content, and any non-dream related spontaneous associations. It is a long, very tedious and very expensive process. My own analysis took in excess of 700 hours, over a period of four years. I must admit it helped me enormously. But, it doesn't help everyone, as not everyone is sincere enough to spill his/her guts so to speak, during this process.

The point I want to make, is that psychoanalysts, interpret very little their clients' spontaneous associations. They consider valid the clients' feelings and thoughts, as expressed by their spontaneous associations and interpretations. It was proved scientifically, through all this huge body of psychoanalytic research, that THE CLIENT IS RIGHT, not the psychoanalyst.

By the same token, Sherrie's feelings and thoughts, that you guys probably haven't got a chance to review in my book, are ESSENTIAL--THE CLIENT IS RIGHT. I was just a facilitator with Sherrie, like the psychoanalyst engaged in the psychoanalytic treatment of his client. But also I was the one to assess her integrity through her sincerity and truthfulness. I've been trained and I have experience over three decades to do exactly that.

Detractors would claim that psychanalysts, work only with the subconscious. Wrong, because the moment subconscious blocks are identified and gotten rid of, the access to the Superconscious (GOD) and the Akashic Records is available. Sadly, Freud was an atheist and discouraged using this acquired clean path to formally access the Akashic Records. But, most of the analysed developed and unknowingly used effectively this capacity.
Hypnosis, in my experience accelerates this psychoanalytic process, in I encourage my clients to read BY THEMSELVES the Akashic Records, as I did with Sherrie. And then we really achieve.

I don't know other pretenders to be the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe, but I know Sherrie to be the one. And Sherrie and I will continue to stick by our story, as Brooke Anderson noted interviewing us recently in CNN Showbiz Tonight.

I respect you both, your pendulum and other methodologies, but I cannot help it to affirm that from a practical, down to earth, scientific take, not theoretical or wishy-washy like the ocean undercurrents, as described by OP, Sherrie IS RIGHT and you are WRONG. With Pendulum, trance--channeling, psychic, with their dismal track record in the public's eye, there is a lot more room for error than in the methodology I employed and that I very briefly described above. Unless you people are saints, completely pure. My assessement is that you may be close to that purity. The best account is based not on a facilitator, you or me and their methodologies, but on THE CLIENT HERSELF--in this case Sherrie Lea Laird. When we play God through our humanness, most of the times we are bound to fail.

Thank you for reading my post. And my foremost wish is that you get a chance to read my book: "Marilyn Monroe Returns: The Healing of a Soul," before we continue to have "oceanic" discussions that seem to lead not too far. Thank you again!

Love and Light,

Adrian



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#263 Today, 07:17 PM
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Adrian, Why are you mocking my post? I am not an enemy. I have an ncredible curiosity about past lives and reincarnation. I have no vested interest in whether you and Sherrie sell a mountain of books. I want to know the truth from a higher perspective. It is a fantastic mystery how Sherrie could channel all the information with accuracy and someone else could also, isn't it? You throw all your medical scientific mumbo jumbo
and yet you never mentioned the Oversoul. Couldn't it be possible that Sherrie is connected to Marilyn through a higher connection and that is accessible to everyone in that group? I am no fan of Brianstalin and his Huge Ego but he IS gifted. Even you can't disagree. You want to sell a book, I want the truth. Who would it seem has an tarnished agenda? Why are you so threatened by anyone questioning"your" truth? You say Sherrie is right and I am wrong.....says who?

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#264 Today, 07:22 PM
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Adrian, You are also as guilty of brianstalin for reworking your take on everything. All of a sudden you are encouraging your clients to access the Akashic records for themselves. I remember you dismissing them when I asked you if you had access to the Akashic Records. You said they weren't neccesary. You are selling a book and the truth is threatening to you. I have lost respect for you.....OP
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#265 Today, 07:25 PM
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I keep thinking of things that I want to say. I believe Sherrie was being truthful in what she was experiencing. The thing is if she was connecting to a higher self or oversoul she could be tapping into a lifetime that generated information for the whole group to access because it is a part of her. Yeah, I know, talk about an inconvenient truth.....OP
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#266 Today, 08:38 PM
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Dear OP,

If you disrespect me just because I said you're wrong about something, that's your choice. I don't depend on anyone's bad or good opinions, on anyone putting me down or elevating me. Nor do I need anyone to draw false conclusions, judging me whether I do everything to sell the book, or through the book to give a bigger-than-ourselves message of love and peace to our troubled world, from the high podium of Marilyn Monroe. In
conclusion, I know who I am and what my true intentions are. And that's enough for me. The Oversoul hyphothesis is too simplistic, when compared with the wealth of mounting evidence in my book, that Sherrie is the reincarnation of MM, which you apparently haven't read, though it can be borrowed for free, by ordering it at your local library. And by the way, I'm treating you as a friend, and friends can tell each other sometimes, if they feel they are wrong and still respect each other, even in disagreement. Isn't this a sign of soul purity and living in the Spirit?
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. You are rather a very nice person and your painting shows your outstanding talent. And denying my "medical mambo-jambo," instead of cosidering it and possibly learn from it, is not going to make it dissappear. Don't we have to be open to learn from each other? I liked and agreed with your ocean comparison, and the intercurrents, and I'm not ashamed to declare that I've learned from you something new, for which I'm grateful to you.

With Love and Respect,

Adrian


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#267 Today, 10:19 PM
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Intention



Quote:
Originally Posted by pastlifetherapy
In conclusion, I know who I am and what my true intentions are. And that's enough for me.

Adrian



To demonstrate true knowledge of self, we must know all of our past lives and the past lives of all others, acknowledge the connections and the karma and the responsibility produced by all the interaction. If we cannot get even one past life correct after 8 years of hard work, what does that say?

As for truth, few people want to deal with that.

Get rich, famous or powerful or die trying using any means possible is about all we are fit for. According to Edgar Cayce, if we cannot lay aside our personalities and self-interest, we are never going to tap into our full potential.






Hi OP,
Don't mistake ego for confidence. Confidence is necessary for clear psychic insight. Evasion of truth is something we are all very skilled at.
The flip side of confidence is stubbornness.










#272 Yesterday, 11:01 PM
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Brianstalin, Please go back a few posts to my questions to you about the oversoul.
Please explain...please...OP
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#273 Yesterday, 11:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oil painter
Well, Brianstalin, then knowing what I know about you, my angel was
right. You and Adrian are both opposite sides of the coin but still
the same coin. OP



Judge only the information we have provided. To do this adequately in the sphere of past life information requires the arousal of Kundalini power, which is the key to all knowledge and wisdom.
Once this has been successfully accomplished there is no need for judgment, only action and demonstration of responsibility.









#274 Yesterday, 11:14 PM
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Please address what I asked. Kundalini...okay...fine but please answer what I asked about. I know I irritate you but at least give me credit for wanting to seek the truth....OP
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#275 Yesterday, 11:15 PM
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Oversoul





In general terms, I don't deal with theories. But, if we acknowledge the oversoul as God and that we are all holographic fragments of God, falsely believing we are separate, then the oversoul theory has some merit in my opinion.













#276 Yesterday, 11:22 PM
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I give up. Why do you and Adrian only read a few posts. Read all of them then we can have a discussion. I didn't ask you for an opinion on the merits of Oversoul. I asked you very specific questions and once again your "inner rodeo clown" surfaces. Both of you get off of your high horses and try to relate to the commom man. I give up. I am outta here. I have to treadmill off this pumkin cheesecake I ate for dessert....OP
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#277 Yesterday, 11:28 PM
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Questions



What are your specific questions?
















#278 Yesterday, 11:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oil painter
Adrian, I have read your post and you are as good as Brianstalin for evading. You both would do well as a rodeo clown. Have you ever been to a rodeo? The clown diverts the bull's attention away from the bull's focus.
I hear what you are saying about your love message to the world. If that were truly the INTENT then the book would have been about reincarnation and less about sensationalizing Sherrie as Marilyn. You should have left breathing room for you to be wrong. Like make the claim that you are 97.999% sure she is Marilyn and then if you were wrong you wouldn't lose face. No one is 100% right. You set yourself up for that one all by yourself. Add to that it is impossible to prove reincarnation. Let's see...yeah you and Brian are truly mirrors for each other's big egos. I am not writing this to bash you but I get impatient with diversion to make a point. Here is a quote from a book by Sal Rachele about reincarnation and oversouls (Life on the Cutting Edge):

"From a purely physical perspective, most souls take on hundreds of embodiments during their evolution on Earth. Past lifetimes are remembered only when a person's consciousness is centered in the realms of the Higher Self, also known as the Oversoul. From the vantage point of the higher self, one can view the entire timeline of incarnations and perceive information from any or all of them. The soul chooses when and where to incarnate, and determines what many of the circumstances of that life will be prior to incarnation. The Oversoul engineers the RNA/DNA codes necessary to create the kind of body that the soul wishes to have.
Ascension occurs when a soul evolves beyond the cycle of reincarnation and increases the vibratory frequency of the physical body sufficiently to graduate from the fourth to fifth density level of evolution. This means the body's cellular structure is sped up to the point of becoming invisible to ordinary third dimensional consciousness.

I am just guessling this Adrian but I would say the oversoul is actually not simplistic and would actually be where the truth would be in the Sherrie/MM saga. Seventh density is the Oversoul. Sal Rachele writes:''The oversoul is a group of souls, or soul family,comprised of a number of individual souls who have merged into a larger whole." How is that simplistic? There is more:
"Souls first begin to bond as couples, or twin flames. These twin souls then seek out other twin souls from the same ray, or family tree. As each twin unites, the souls form a cluster, which fuses together into one master soul- the Oversoul. Each oversoul fragments by sending individual souls out into incarnation or other levels of experience. The souls later re-merge back into the oversoul and the cycle repeats for as long as each soul feels the need for more life experience. Sometimes, souls from the same soul group meet on the Earth plane and recognize each other. Often, one soul family member will remain in the higher planes and assist another who is stationed on Earth. "I think it is very possible for Sherrie to be able to access Marilyn by virtue of an oversoul connection. Is it too late to rewrite the press release on your book to say"Sherrie Lea Laird- A Member of Marilyn Monroe's Oversoul"?
OP



All is good and dandy. Let's accept for the sake of the argument that hypothetically, all the above explanation of Oversoul is correct. Then, how would you explain the astrological concordance between Sherrie and Marilyn, the same North Moon Node of Cancer and the same North House Node of Aquarius, i.e. Sherrie learning the same unfinished lesson MM started learning, but not completing it, due to her premature physical death?
North Moon Node of Cancer, facilitates learning family, and love, peace and harmony in the family, which Marilyn missed. North House Node of Aquarius, facilitates completing the humanitarian lesson--a message of love and peace to the world, that Marilyn wanted to give to the world from the high podium of JFK, and failed. Now, and this may answer your assumption, she has a renewed opportunity to do the same, but successfully. But for this purpose, Sherrie needs the high podium of MM's notoriety.

Also, it is amazing how without knowing me and my true intentions, you draw conclusions, more offending and unfair toward me than my casual and friendly saying that you are wrong claiming empathically and implying that you are 100% sure that Sherrie is not MM reincarnated, as per your pendulum. On the other hand, according to you, I have to admit that I'm only 97% or so sure about the opposite--that Sherrie is Marilyn reincarnated. Is this a double standard? Besides the example with the North Moon Nodes, there are plenty of other examples, including coincidences, M's time people recognizing independently Sherrie, as the reincarnation of MM, bone structure architecture, handwriting, voice pattern, deep emotions accompanying many of these pieces of info, etc., etc., all appearing in detail in my book.

Best,

Adrian


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#279 Today, 12:02 AM
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What about the astrological concordance between Zsuzsanna and Marilyn?
Facial bone structure is consistent with being the daughter of one of Marilyn's incarnations at one time. Close soul group connections will explain these and other similarities.

It has been noted that Kevin Ryerson's past life readings seem to continually focus on similarities in occupation. For example Marilyn must be connected to entertainment now. Nostradamus must be a psychic now. A hypnotherapist was a physician in France etc.



















#280 Today, 12:28 AM
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Notoriety



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But for this purpose, Sherrie needs the high podium of MM's notoriety.

Adrian



Do I detect a possible bias here and lack of objectivity?
















#281 Today, 12:28 AM
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What about the astrological concordance between Zsuzsanna and Marilyn?
Facial bone structure is consistent with being the daughter of one of Marilyn's incarnations at one time. Close soul group connections will explain these and other similarities.

Zsuzsanna did not have the concordance with the North Moon Nodes which are indicative of the lesson to be learned from one lifetime to the next.

Seven and a half years of hard research work, even before, Kevin Ryerson came up with confirmations, as you stated, my research work was reasonably complete, with my own methodology. As you are alluding to my being a French physician in a past life and my connection with Sherrie in that life, as her physician, I regressed myself shortly before Sherrie contacted me the first time (coincidence?) and found out of this French life and my connection with Sherrie, including my name, her name, the year 1667, the place where I met her and treated her. That was confirmed as well by Kevin, seven and a half years later, including all the details and more than what I personally discovered. And remember, THE CLIENT IS RIGHT. And in this case I was the client of myself.

Thank you for your input,

Adrian

Brianstalin:

It has been noted that Kevin Ryerson's past life readings seem to continually focus on similarities in occupation. For example Marilyn must be connected to entertainment now. Nostradamus must be a psychic now. A hypnotherapist was a physician in France etc.


I've already posted above my answer.

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#282 Today, 12:34 AM
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As you are alluding to my being a French physician in a past life and my connection with Sherrie in that life, as her physician, I regressed myself shortly before Sherrie contacted me the first time (coincidence?) and found out of this French life and my connection with Sherrie, including my name, her name, the year 1667, the place where I met her and treated her. That was confirmed as well by Kevin, seven and a half years later, including all the details and more than what I personally discovered. And remember, THE CLIENT IS RIGHT. And in this case I was the client of myself.

Adrian



My readings indicate that you were Sherrie's portrait painter in Russia.
This and the above past life does nothing to convince us that Sherrie became Marilyn.


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#283 Today, 12:42 AM
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Do I detect a possible bias here and lack of objectivity?



Questioning my objectivity, you are reversing here the cause and the effect. The cause was SSL being MM reincarnated. The effect was using that "unplanned" finding for a good cause. By the way, if you are so evolved in psychic predictions, you could know by this time that I and my intentions are for real.


















#284 Today, 12:50 AM
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Adrian,

I don't mean to offend you. I never said I was 100% correct, you did. All I said was Sherrie is right and I am wrong? Who says. It is hard to post with you and Brian because of the way you both take pieces of a post to bolster your agendas. I understand the astrology part but I am not quite sure why someone would try to replicate a lifetime. I have my astrological chart and Suzanne Valadon's and I can see my progression and how I came back older and definitely wiser. How can you be positive of MM's chart?
Here me out on the oversoul . This is why I think that the oversoul is why there are so many MMs. I grew up with a weird guy that I went through elementary all the way to high school with. We were friends and my sister said we got along because we were both oddballs. The weird guy became a famous author. I believe he and I are like twin flames or at least definitely part of the same soul family. I knew him in France as Eric Satie. In this present life we both went to the same country club, we both took guitar lessons from the midget at the music store at the mall, we both had to have speech therapy because we mixed up "th" and "s'' and the list goes on. I had to quit reading his books because it felt like he was inside my own thought process. I feel like he is a part of me like we are breathing the same breath. I am not fond of him because he is an overwhelming personality. He hung it off of the turnip truck going round a curve at 100 miles an hour and I would watch from the window. Same thoughts but very different choice of expression. Okay, let's jump into the future with a what if. I come back as a man and I under hypnosis tap into this lifetime. Because of the similarities of our lives and our soul connection I could say I was "famous author". When we are deeply connected into our soul family members it is possible. I only offer this as an explanation for how two women could believe they are MM. I was kind of stunned about Sherrie/MM needing the notoriety of someone famous as a podium, your words not mine, to give the message of love to the world.
What is wrong with speaking for yourself? MM seemed too self- absorbed to be thinking about giving the world a valentine. I don't keep up with movie stars and don't watch movies though so I could be wrong. Peace Adrian. I don't mean to offend. This is an incredible learning experience with you and Brian on one side and my angel in the other ear whispering.......OP
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#285 Today, 12:52 AM
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Questioning my objectivity, you are reversing here the cause and the effect. The cause was SSL being MM reincarnated. The effect was using that "unplanned" finding for a good cause. By the way, if you are so evolved in psychic predictions, you could know by this time that I and my intentions are for real.



The cause was SSL being MM reincarnated. This is your conclusion. It is not a fact. Reincarnation is unproven and hypnosis deals with mental states. I don't doubt your good intentions.



















#286 Today, 01:04 AM
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My readings indicate that you were Sherrie's portrait painter in Russia. This and the above past life does nothing to convince us that Sherrie became Marilyn.



Brian, it’s an honor for me to be confirmed by you as a famous Russian painter. First of all, I don't see any similarity between my eyes and my eyes expression and that of the painter. Secondly, I do not have talent in that department--painting. Thirdly, I don't get the feeling in the waking state or in a hypnotic or meditative state that that description fits me.
However, being a physician and healer many lifetimes before, beautifully resonates with my soul, including being that French physician. Besides, this is only one sign out of hundreds and many interrelated, that you can find in my book, to advance the finding that SSL is MM reincarnated.
















#287 Today, 01:30 AM
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To know our past lives is rather daunting and challenging. It's not always about what resonates and what feels right. That is a part of New Age superficial thinking. There is some merit in this resonance, though. My own experiences of hypnosis have convinced me that we are capable of creating false past life memories, that make us feel comfortable and relate to how we want to perceive ourselves. Our minds and egos are fragile things. We don't remember things objectively for good reasons. It is inevitable that we have been caught up in war and murder down the timeline of History. Are we willing to acknowledge the war-like and murderous impulses that remain beneath the surface even now? These are reflected in our movies, TV dramas and pop culture for a reason. These hidden memories cause the congested energies that make us sick in mind and body. Reiki allows these negative energies to leave the body and some balance is
restored. With more balance our past life memories become increasingly objective and more helpful in understanding our true selves and true responsibilities.


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#288 Today, 02:10 AM
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Brian, when I see light in my personal experience and Sherrie in hers, you cannot come and say: "You see dark." And remember, THE CLIENT IS RIGHT. It is convenient to diminish others, labeling them with "superficial New Age thinking," in order to advance your viewpoint. But is it necessarily true and fair?

Come on, I think you have potential talent for something better than that.
Otherwise, I'm sorry to say, if you don't acknowledge your possible mistake reading me and my past lives, then I would have to doubt your accuracy in general, not only with me. And I can speak for myself, if speaking for Sherrie is not convincing to you (even though you most probably haven't read my book, as yet.)

At this juncture, I feel and think, I've done the best to put across my point regarding SSL being the reincarnation of MM, and I'm not going to debate it any longer, as it is a waste of our time and others, reading and/or participating in this forum. My apologies to all of you for my lengthy posts, in case they inconvenienced you in any way.

Merry Christmas!

Love and Light and my best wishes to all,

Adrian
















#289 Today, 02:40 AM
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Objective Truth





I'm just sharing my experiences of hypnosis and my own frightening journeys into objectivity. I do believe New Age beliefs are somewhat superficial compared to Eastern philosophy. But that's only a general opinion, perhaps we can change all that. Fair or true? That's for all of us to decide for ourselves. I have acknowledged the possibility of my mistakes on numerous occasions.

I added a moustache to the Russian painter. If you regress yourself back to the period 1735-1822, I would be curious as to where you would find yourself. If you were around then and weren't Dmitry Levitzky, then who were you? These are the sort of questions that interest me.


As OP said some of us want to know the truth. It's not an easy thing to place ourselves in uncomfortable positions or find ourselves trapped into corners, where we must defend ourselves from those demanding objectivity and common sense.

Your research will inevitably spark a lot of interesting debate.
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#290 Today, 03:54 AM pastlifetherapy
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Looking at the painter's picture and mine, no, no way Jose, ha, ha! Not the same eyes nor soul resonance. I regressed myself into many, many lives, including the period 1735-1822., but no painter past-life. Some of them I discussed about with Shirley MacLaine, several years ago.

Just for curiosity: astrological similarities between M and S by a renown astrologer follow:

Marilyn Monroe Stages a Comeback, Part 2

Adrian Finkelstein's recently published book, Marilyn Monroe Returns, makes the astonishing claim that Canadian singer Sherrie Lea Laird is the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe. In the book, the author convincingly details the many remarkable parallels between their lives, and in the process, confirms the validity of reincarnation itself. But how do their horoscopes compare?

Sherrie Lea was born (July 11, 1963; 9:30 am; Edinburgh, Scotland**) eleven months after Marilyn Monroe died, giving her Sun in Cancer and Moon in Pisces. With these luminaries trine to Neptune in Scorpio, Sherrie Lea has a Water Grand Trine, a configuration often associated with alcohol or drug addiction. Sherrie Lea admits to this chronic problem, which was shared by Marilyn Monroe who also has a Water Grand Trine.

Marilyn's horoscope was presented here two weeks ago, and the observant reader will note the many precise alignments between their charts. For example, Sherrie Lea's Mars is exactly opposite Marilyn's Mars, and Sherrie Lea's Part of Fortune is exactly conjunct Marilyn's Venus. In addition, they have several close Saturn-Neptune interchanges, and mutual Sun-Pluto aspects.

Finkelstein prefers to look at the similarities between the Lunar Nodes to validate reincarnation. Vedic astrologers and esoteric western astrologers also refer to the Lunar Nodes when describing past life influences.
Marilyn's Pluto and North Node are conjunct, while Sherrie Lea's Sun and North Node are conjunct, and all four are found together in the middle of Cancer. It's as if Marilyn's death (Pluto) gave rise to Sherrie Lea's personal identity (Sun).

Read Part One, to learn more about Marilyn Monroe's Horoscope.

* For more on Pluto and Ceres, go to www.neptunecafe.com and read the Wall
Street Journal article by Jane Spencer, which includes an interview with
NewsScope columnist Michael Wolfstar.

** This birth data is not in the book, but was emailed to me by the
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Looking at the painter's picture and mine, no, no way Jose, ha, ha!
Not the same eyes nor soul resonance. I regressed myself into many, many lives, including the period 1735-1822., but no painter past-life.
Some of them I discussed about with Shirley MacLaine, several years ago.













1735-1822, so what country and what occupation? Any interesting events and life lessons?
My pendulum teacher once told me that forces on the other side do not want us to know about the truth. He told me that regression, in particular, could be unreliable. Without proper precautions spirit messages and pendulums in the wrong hands could become unreliable, too. My teacher used the pendulum primarily for health readings and would confirm already diagnosed ailments with great skill.



I was equally unimpressed by his initial past life readings for myself. It has prompted a lot of soul-searching to find the truth. Does hypnosis encourage soul searching or must we accept all the information from regression as gospel?












#294 12-25-2006, 11:17 PM
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Under regression I found myself on a ship. 1834. Sailing to the West Indies. There was ill feeling aboard and a mutiny had been planned well in advance. I remember some of the startling vivid images. A man in the galley, smoking a clay pipe, playing a squeeze box. A black dog playing at his feet. Under hypnosis I could even recall his name.

It later transpired I was living as a Thai prince. Banished from Thailand, because of my mother's strong sympathies with the Christianity taught to her by missionaries, we set sail for London.

The first story may sound less fanciful, in some ways. But I ask myself why have so many reliable psychics supported the second story. Why have I lived for over 15 years in Thailand?

Can you see why I'm keen to test information from hypnosis? Keen to test even Edgar Cayce's readings? My hypnosis took place many years before meeting my pendulum teacher.


Perhaps there is yet a third version.










#295 12-25-2006, 11:30 PM
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It's possible to see how my first story was a screen memory.

Banishment from a life of luxury was perhaps conveniently transformed into feelings of unrest and mutiny. Both stories had a sea voyage. One, away from England to beautiful tropical islands and with delightful expectation of defeating the tyrants in charge of the ship, the other, a voyage to London, where further problems awaited the unfortunate prince from Thailand.












#296 Yesterday, 12:04 AM
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It seems that my father was King Rama III, who, according to the Akashic records is closely connected to the actor William Holden.
Strangely it was the book and movie,"The World of Suzie Wong", that led me straight back to the Far-East and eventually to my old home, Thailand.
In the movie, William Holden played Robert Lomax, an impoverished English artist who falls in love with the mysterious Chinese prostitute, Suzie Wong.

Beyond belief? My guides insist that is where reality and truth lie - a long way from our rigid belief systems. This is one reason that I'm in no particular hurry to write about past lives.













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Contrary to the popular belief held by some Westerners, Mongkut never offered a herd of war elephants to President Abraham Lincoln during the American Civil War for use against the Confederacy. He did offer to send some domesticated elephants to President James Buchanan, to use as beasts of burden and means of transportation.



James Buchanan is now a well-known Hollywood star. Do you know who he is?











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It was during his reign and under his guidance that Siam entered a treaty relationship with Great Britain. Sir John Bowring, Governor of Hong Kong, as representative of England, concluded the trade treaty (later commonly referred to as "the Bowring Treaty")with the Siamese Government in 1855.
The Bowring Treaty later served as model for series of trade treaties with many other westerns countries, and historians often give credits to King Mongkut (and Sir John Bowring) for opening the new era of Siam's international commerce. These treaties, however, were also later considered an inequal treaty, and after Siam had been modernized, the Siamese government began negotiations to renounce the Bowring Treaty and other similar treaties in the reign of King Vajiravudh, Rama VI, grandson of Mongkut, a task that would not succeeded until well into the reign of Rama VII, another grandson of his.



The actor Ernest Borgnine has a connection to Sir John Bowring.





















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King Buddhayodfa, the Great (Rama I) 1782-1809

He may have a connection to one of the Hollywood Greats.

Can you guess who?

















Buddha Yodfa Chulaloke or Phutthayotfa, posthumously titled Rama I the Great, was King of Siam (now called Thailand) from 1782 to 1809, and the founder of the Chakri dynasty which rules Thailand to this day.

The future king was born on March 20, 1737 in Ayutthaya, his birth name was Thong Duang. He was born the son of Phra Aksorn Sundara Smiantra, a noble of the kingdom of Ayutthaya, who following the fall of Ayutthaya became Chao Phya Chakri at Pitsanuloke. After receiving his education in a Buddhist temple, his father sent him to become a squire for king Uthumphon, and it was at this moment that he met his friend Tak Sin, who would become King Taksin, Rama's future predecessor. After the fall of Ayutthaya, he rejoined the ranks of king Taksin under the name Chao Phraya Chakri. He was given the name Buddha Yodfa Chulaloke posthumously by king Rama III, Nangklao.

While serving as Taksin's general, Rama conquered Vientiane in 1778-79, putting the country under vassalage, and removing its Emerald Buddha and Phra Bang to Thonburi. In April 4, 1782, when Taksin was declared mad after a coup d'etat and was later executed, Rama assumed power, establishing the Chakri dynasty. He was crowned on April 6 as Rama I; the date is now Chakri Memorial Day, a public holiday in Thailand.


In 1785, the last of the Nguyen Lords, Nguyen Anh convinced King Chulaloke to give him forces to attack Vietnam (which was now under the control of the Tay Son brothers). However, the joint Nguyen-Siam fleet is destroyed in the Battle of Rach Gam–Xoai Mut in the Mekong delta region. Seven years later, Nguyen Anh with more help from the Siamese, stages a series of attacks on Saigon.

King Rama I continued Taksin's task of saving the newly reunited country from attack by Burma, and repulsed several Burmese invasions. Culturally, Rama I also reestablished the traditions of the country by salvaging Buddhist texts lost in the chaos after the sacking of Ayutthaya by the Burmese in 1767. He also moved the capital from Taksin's capital of Thonburi and built the new capital Bangkok.In his palace, the Wat Phra Kaew, to house the Emerald Buddha, and created a new code of laws, the Book of three seals. He appointed the first Supreme Patriarch of Thai Buddhism. As literature was his passion, he also wrote a Thai version of the Ramayana epos called Ramakian.

On his death, he was succeeded by his son prince Isarasundorn, who assumed the throne name of King Buddha Loetla Nabhalai (now posthumously titled Rama II).